Sunday, April 6, 2008

Bad Move or Good Sandwich Raise? (HA)

So I got lampooned for this one today. It was early on and the table had been very loose-passive preflop and a bit wild post-flop. Here's how it went down:

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 20/40 Blinds, 8 Players - Hand History Converter

UTG: 2,130
UTG+1: 1,770
MP1: 780
MP2: 1,380
CO: 1,860
Hero (BTN): 1,270
SB: 1,400
BB: 2,910

Pre-Flop: (60) Js Ks dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls 40, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls 40, MP2 folds, CO calls 40, Hero calls 40, SB calls 20, BB checks

Flop: (240) 7s Ah Qs (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets 200, MP1 folds, CO calls 200, Hero raises to 800, SB folds, BB calls 800, UTG raises to 2,090 and is All-In, CO folds, Hero calls 430 and is All-In, BB calls 1,290

Turn: (5,850) Tc (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (5,850) 6d (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 5,850 Pot
UTG showed 7d 7c (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON 1,720 (-410 NET)
Hero showed Js Ks (a straight, Ace high) and WON 4,130 (+2,860 NET)
BB showed Jc Th (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-2,130 NET)

Pocket 7's was probably the only hand I was really worried about here, and I figured I could get some mediocre Aces to fold, and if I met resistence I would be committed to call, but wouldn't mind doing so, potentially having 12 outs. The funny thing though, was that the UTG guy went off on me afterwards saying "lucky bastard" and "what a stupid call." What a stupid call??? I had to put 430 more in to a pot of over 4,000!!! Even if I was certain that you had a set I would have the correct odds to call. Not only that, but what about the guy in the BB that called a bet and a strong raise with an inside straight draw? If anyone made a stupid call it was that guy.

I didn't think much of his insults, as to me it was a move worth making, and I had no choice but to get the rest of my chips in there. Maybe a little risky to raise, but I'm certainly not folding in that spot and I prefer the aggressive method over just calling since my stack could use a little help if I want to cash in this thing. Sure I got a little lucky to win the hand, but it also set me up great to take the guy out a little bit later when he was still tilting (see hand below), and I went on the win the thing.

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds, 6 Players - Hand History Converter

UTG: 1,820
MP: 2,205
CO: 2,040
BTN: 2,065
Hero (SB): 4,100
BB: 1,270

Pre-Flop: (75) Ac As dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG raises to 100, MP calls 100, 2 folds, Hero raises to 400, BB folds, UTG raises to 1,820 and is All-In, MP folds, Hero calls 1,420

Flop: (3,790) Td 9c 5d (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Turn: (3,790) 7c (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (3,790) Ks (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 3,790 Pot
UTG showed 8c 8d (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-1,820 NET)
Hero showed Ac As (a pair of Aces) and WON 3,790 (+1,970 NET)

He made a nice little "worst player ever" comment on his way out, which really didn't bother me since I was taking his chips as a 4-1 favorite.

Oh and by the way, Full Tilt seems to be fully functional once again. Not sure what the problem was last night but it's back in action and traffic appears to be normal.

Hope to see you there. - B


Cell 1919 said...

Well done for taking it down!

I wonder why you didn't go all in instead of raising to 800? You were already committed to shove it all in eventually anyway.

It probably didn't make any difference to the overall hand outcome, although may have persuaded a drawing hand to look for a better spot.

Personally I don't UTG's call pre-flop (gotta be raised to define his hand and narrow the field) or his pot sized bet when he hits a set. If he had pushed would you have called?

The BB's post flop play beggars belief, as you say ;)

Brian said...

That's a good question... and I can't really give you a good answer, except that in some situations I'll size my bets like that (leaving an amount behind that I would be committed to call off anyways) in order to make it look more like a value bet or indication of strength rather than a semi-bluff draw or act of desperation. Obviously the outcome would've most likely been the same, as I'm sure he wouldn't be putting me on AA or QQ, though who knows what the BB would've done if I went all-in there.